TEHRAN (Tasnim) A political analyst and Islamic scholar based in Leicester, the United Kingdom, described the Israeli-Saudi alliance as not surprising and said the two regimes, which are both satellites of the US, are in fact two peas in a pod. - Politics news -
"So, the alliance between the regime occupying Arabia and the regime occupying Palestine, which is what I think it's better to refer to them as, is something not surprising," Shabbir Hassanally said in an interview with the Tasnim News Agency.
"These two are both satellites of the United States which has a very big problem with Iran because Iran is not subservient to the Empire and as a result, they will all come together," he stated.
"Saudi Arabia and Israel are two peas in a pod. They are the same, one usurps and defames and insults Islam; the other one defames, insults and usurps Judaism."
Following is the full text of the interview:
Tasnim: As you know, the Israeli and Saudi regimes do not have any official diplomatic relations but media reports have surfaced indicating extensive behind-the-scenes diplomatic and intelligence cooperation between the two. In your opinion, what goals is Riyadh pursuing by getting closer to Tel Aviv?
Hassanally: In order to understand this question, in order to answer this question really about the relationship, supposedly covert relationship but in reality very overt relationship between so-called Israel and so-called Saudi Arabia, we have to understand that both of these entities are built on the perversion of a religion. They both profess to represent. Israel professes to represent Judaism but in reality, has nothing to do with Judaism. The same way so-called Saudi Arabia professes, claims to represent Islam but has nothing to do with Islam. It's alien to Islam and everything about Saudi Arabia and its manner of conduct (is proof of this). The same with Israel goes against the teachings of Islam and for Israel that goes against the teachings of Judaism and this is not just one person saying it. This is evidenced by many senior Jewish rabbis and senior Muslim Ulema or scholars who have suggested this and said this and actually gone further to prove it. So, the alliance between the regime occupying Arabia and the regime occupying Palestine, which is what I think it's better to refer to them as, is something not surprising.
What's surprising is that they haven't done it sooner but of course, it's all about perception. It's about how the world will view them. I mean for many years, Saudi Arabia was perceived by the Muslim world as the bastion of Islamic teachings and Islamic thought and it was thought of unfortunately by the Muslim world as a whole, as a flag bearer for Islam whereas the events in Syria with the sponsoring of Daesh and such groups, the sponsorship of al Qaeda and its various operations across the world, not to mention its genocide in Yemen and also in Bahrain, has sort of removed the mask from the Saudi regime.
Also, a lot of the corruption and the debauched behavior of the children from this family is now coming out into the open and because of this it's a case of people like Mohammed bin Salman, who is the de facto ruler of Saudi Arabia, really doesn't have any time for Islam. He doesn't want these restrictions or as he thinks of them of course as restrictions and he wants to completely westernize his country with what he believes is his country but he's actually occupied land. So, of course, it's not very surprising at all. What I believe is one of these strategic problems that Saudi Arabia has is that there is now a power in the region called the Islamic Republic of Iran which does embody the principles of Islam. It speaks for Islam. It selflessly supports people that are oppressed. The Islamic Iran has supported the Palestinians from day one of the (1979) revolution and the victory of the revolution and it went in to support Iraq when Iraq had a problem with Daesh and al-Qaeda and it went in of course into Syria for the same reason and it doesn't go into countries with the intention that America does, where America goes into a country and it was to pillage the country and you know, to take over its natural resources.
Of course, Iran doesn't act in this way. Iran goes in to support the country, to help the country, develop a degree of stability and remove its problems if we like, organize itself and remove its problems and then Iran will go back to Iran and continue supporting that country helping the country rebuild, reconstruct itself and develop the independence that the people of the Islamic Republic of Iran fought so hard to get. We must remember all of this is tied to the ideology that brought about the Islamic Revolution, the way the Islamic Revolution was brought about, why it was brought about. All of these need to be understood in order to understand Iran's policy.
For Saudi Arabia this was, of course, a disaster because with Iran, which they point out and they call it as the Ajam or the Persian or the Shiite and they make this idea that Iran is somehow not talking about Islam and Saudis can say this but at the end of the day, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. So, when you look and compare Saudi Islam and the Islam coming out of the Islamic Republic of Iran and its practical aspects, its spiritual aspects, cultural aspects, everything, you can see that what so-called Saudi Arabia has is nothing as though has no connection to Islam whereas what Iran is doing is the embodiment of Islamic teachings within the Quran, where you're supposed to help your fellow man when he or she is down, you're supposed to go and support people who are being oppressed, you go and help those who are poor and such things. So this embarrasses Saudi Arabia and so they want Iran to be out of the equation. So does Israel of course for the same reason because Iran calls Israel an occupier, an illegal occupier which is what it is and so of course, Israel has a problem. These two are both satellites of the United States which has a very big problem with Iran because Iran is not subservient to the Empire and as a result, they will all come together. So, this is in my opinion, the understanding that I have of why there is extensive now more outside but previously behind-the-scenes diplomatic and intelligence and other cooperation between so-called Saudi Arabia and so-called Israel and with that I will move on to the next question.
Tasnim: Recently, some media reports revealed secret links between top Saudi officials, including Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Adel al-Jubeir, and the Israeli spy agency, Mossad. Can we say that Israel has managed to infiltrate into Saudi Arabia and is dictating its policies to Riyadh? How do you see the future of relations between the two?
Hassanally: Now, this is an interesting question. It's not so much a case of Saudi Arabia being infiltrated by Israel. It's more a case of America which is the Great Satan. I mean, we should call it what it is, which has been controlling and utilizing both of these entities in order to further its agenda and like I've said, Saudi Arabia and Israel are two peas in a pod.
They are the same, one usurps and defames and insults Islam; the other one defames, insults and usurps Judaism. They have nothing to do with the divine religions but they are motivated by greed and by power and essentially by their own survival in terms of the regimes and America provides this. So, America has now chosen to almost expose more publicly the idea that Saudi and Israel are working very closely. Mossad we know works very closely with the CIA and so ultimately, the so-called Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has been infiltrated from the beginning.
When I say infiltrated, I mean it's not been working for the betterment and for the benefit of its population. It's been working for the betterment and benefit of its master which is of course the United States and as a result of this it is receptive to overtures by Zionists and neo-cons and people who have no care for the people of Saudi Arabia and the region but who care about the natural resources who care about maintaining a balance of terror in the region where American power is constantly thought of by or at least this is the illusion that America tries to create.
America wants to be in a position where the world needs it, where the region, the Middle East region, which is one of the most important strategic regions, needs it all the time and so it keeps trying to do that and one of the means that it uses is of course using Israel because Israel is obviously on the surface. It's a lot closer to the American Empire and to work with Saudi Arabia to circumvent either local and indigenous resistance movements that have been resisting the illegal and inhumane policies of Saudi Arabia but not just that; it also of course tries to create a scenario of war with either Syria or with Iran or with Hezbollah or with any organization, any country that seeks to stand in the way of America and says we will not bend the knee to the empire anyone who does this is a threat to the Empire so the Empire will use every method available to it in order to achieve its goals.
Tasnim: Generally speaking, how do you think about Saudi policies in the Middle East, including normalization of ties with Israel, and do you believe that regional countries would follow suit? If they would do so, how much are they ready to pay?
Hassanally: Again, this is a very interesting question. The normalization of ties between so-called Saudi Arabia and so-called Israel, this is something that I believe as long as the Saudi regime occupies Arabia is something inevitable. I'm surprised that it actually took this long and I think the reason it's taken this long is because they've had ties but the ties have been undercover. They haven't been overt. Now, with what is perceived as the failure of the so-called Arab Spring and the failure of the Americans and the Zionists and the Saudis to defeat the resistance axis in Syria and Iraq, I think they're being forced into a different position and they're taking more direct action and as a result, they're showing their colors; they're showing that they're all together.
As for the countries that will follow suit, which countries will join in on this activity, I think those countries that are controlled and beholden to Saudi Arabia and America will go into this. They may make different noises initially; they may sort of pretend to resist if you like to somehow appease their population but ultimately, this will all become overt unless the people, the genuine people on the ground in these countries and I'll come to who I think the countries are; until these countries have an independent government that actually cares about the people, nothing is going to change. It's just going to get worse and worse and in terms of these countries, first of all, I'm talking about the countries of the Persian Gulf region.
Countries such as Bahrain, even Qatar unfortunately, Oman, Kuwait, of course so-called Saudi Arabia, and also we mustn't forget countries like Jordan and Egypt and so on. All of these countries operate as satellites of the United States and as long as they are satellites of the United States, this policy coming out of Washington of normalization that the Saudis have been asked to promote if you like and be flag bearers on, of course this will continue.
So, once Saudi has fully normalized, then you'll see Bahrain very quickly, UAE, the so-called Emirates, you know, as I like to call them the shopping mall with a flag, they will also fully normalize although arguably they have already fully normalized and you know further and further and further and further so until there is a viable resistance, until there is a real opposition from the population, I don't think this is going to change. In terms of the cost, I think that these countries that I've mentioned, Bahrain and Oman and UAE and such, I think these people the cost to get them onto the side of the empires and for the regimes to come on the side of the Empire and to make open relations with Israel.
I think this is going to be quite cheap. These people (regimes) have very little honor. They don't really care and they see making ties with Israel as a means to further their financial agendas and their financial aims. So in terms of having to bribe them, I don't think this is going to be a problem for the Americans or for the Saudis. This is not what they need. In terms of the people, the cost, in terms of the local people in these countries, anyone who comes and resists and stands up and says no, this is a problem, they will pay a very heavy price and they will need to be a revolution and again, I think people need to look at the Islamic Revolution because if you look at Shah in the pre-Islamic Revolution victory times, Shah was completely in bed with Israel.
There's documentary evidence that suggests that Savak was trained by Mossad and CIA and that Shah had no problem with the Israelis even though, you know, of course he knew that people didn't like it but Shah never cared about the people. This is the same nature of these mini-Shahs that are floating around in so-called Saudi Arabi, Bahrain, UAE, etc. in Jordan and Egypt etc. These shahs need to be removed and can only be removed by a ground like a grass roots real revolution and I don't believe a secular revolution can remedy this. I believe it needs to be in this region. It needs to be an Islamic Revolution, a revolution of light if you like the Islamic Revolution and I would encourage those revolutionaries on the ground in these countries to study the history of the Islamic Revolution from 1963 until 1979 to read Imam Khomeini's writings to understand what was going on to understand what Shah had done and to understand how deep the Israeli and American influence was in Iran prior to the revolution and to see how it was possible for Imam Khomeini and the brave people of Iran to give many many sacrifices to literally take this cancer and throw him out.
This was a big deal. This was not something trivial, you know, and for the revolution, it's been struggling of course we can see it's been under constant harassment and constant strife for 40 years now but it still stays strong. Iran is still excelling in every area and this is what happens when you put reliance upon God when you rely on the truth, on right, on justice, you will see that the truth is a very powerful ally and these people need to learn from the Islamic Revolution. They need to rise above all these sectarian ideas that Saudi Arabia and America and other places are trying to promote. They need to look and see this Islamic Revolution was an explosion of light and this is what we need across the entire region and finally, I'd like to thank Tasnim News Agency for inviting me for this interview and Inshallah I hope to speak to you again in the future.